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Fibromyalgia and Amino acids
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lacey - March 28

New hope for fatigue sufferers
Two Australian scientists have discovered a potential new therapy set to revolutionise the management of fatigue.

Professors Tim Roberts and Hugh Dunstan from the university of Newcastle have studied fatigue for almost 20 years. "We have studied the biochemistry of people with chronic fatigure syndrome (CFS), fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis, and found a common biochemistry, called the catabolic state," Professor Roberts says. "This is where your metabolism shifts from gaining energy from normal metabolism to digesting it's own tissue proteins to produce energy." The body swings into the catabolic state to fight infection, so if the cause of the catabolism is not addressed, the body eventually runs out of essential nutrients - in particular amino acids.

Amino acids circulate at constant levels in your blood and whenever a cell wants to built a protein, it takes the amino acid from the blood. If you digest protein from food such as meat, then the amino acids get restocked in your blood. But sometimes stress hormones that result from chronic infection or competitive sports can prevent digestion. When protein is not digested, the only way to restock aminos acids is to break down muscle protein, which causes muscle wasting and fatigue. The Newcastle group hypothesised that people in this chronic catabolic state would benefit from amino acid supplementation.

Professor Roberts warns against the popular trend of addressing fatigure through caffeinated energy drinks and said amino acids offer a far healthier, long term solution. "Amino acids bring metabolism back to healthier levels with no side effects as compared to the quick-fix provided by caffeine which is generally followed by a crash in energy levels." Working with Newcastle-based TOP Nutrition company, the FATIGUE reviva supplement was developed to provide amino acids in a precise format and a unique delivery system to immediately restock the blood to it's required level without breaking down muscle protein. This pioneering amino acid research could also have implications for athletes, students, the elderly and those recovering from illness.

This article you have read, was in a pamphlet delivered in our local newspaper. I am always weary when I read the bit about so and so working for such and such a company but, here it is anyway. I wouldn't have a clue if it's for real or not. I've typed it all out word for word, as it appeared in the pamphlet.


Fantod - March 28

lacey - Thanks for posting this information.

I've been taking amino acids for a year. Mine are specifically formulated for me based on some tests that my doctor ran. I have them made at a compound pharmacy every month and take seven capsules every morning. They are very expensive.

Frankly, I've seen no improvement in my fatigue levels. If anything, I'm worse at the moment. I honestly don't think that they do anything that I can quantify. I just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject before everyone gets worked up about this topic.


lacey - March 28

That's fine by me. i see so many things that have been said, that is suppose to be great for fibromyalia but, then it only works for some ppl and not others.

It's also interesting to here, after what these ppl are saying, that it hasn't worked for you.

Back to the drawing board.

I'm thinking : food related


January - March 29

Hi Lacey, thanks for posting this info. I went to their website, and copied the ingredients for the Fatigue Reviva supplement, and they are:

Amino acid complex ^(Glycine, L-Proline, L-Glutamine, L-Carnitine, L- Threonine, L-Lysine, L-Alanine, L-Valine, Taurine, L-Serine, L-Cysteine, L-Arginine, L-Histidine, L-Isoleucine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Leucine, L-Methionine, L-Glutamic Acid, L-Aspartic Acid, L-Tyrosine), FOS, Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Succinic Acid, d-Ribose, Multivitamins and minerals (Potassium, Phosphorus, Calcium, Magnesium, Molybdenum, Sodium, Vit C, Niacin, Vit E, Iron, Zinc, Riboflavin, Manganese, Vit B6, Pantothenic Acid, Thiamine, Copper, Vit A, Folate, Iodine, Vit K, Chromium, Selenium, Vit D, Biotin, Vit B12), Flavours.

I think a lot of fibro people will recognize common supplements here: a lot of people take malic acid, for example. We have recently discussed D-Ribose on a thread too. There are amino acids, vitamins and minerals in this formula. Not everyone should be taking iron. I'd recommend reviewing it with your doctor if you want to give it a try, as there are some medical conditions that can be affected by extra vitamins and supplements… however, it looks like a regular supplement combination to me - though they don't list the strengths, and that is something to consider also, as you don't want to overdose on anything, and it's important to keep some of these in the correct proportions.

I've done a lot of research, and for ME, some of these supplements have been helpful. (I've researched my particular conditions on websites like the one for The Vitamin Shoppe.) For example, I need to strengthen my bones, so Vit K is important as it helps absorption of Vit D3. Also, I have taken pre-digested amino acids and I think they helped me, as I probably don't digest food very well. I currently take glutamine for gut health, and also acetyl L-carnitine which I think really helps my energy level. I can tell when I forget to take it.

I don't know if this particular supplement is worth the money; if you are taking a good multi vitamin/ mineral supplement, you should be getting the vitamins. I have taken LPP pre-digested amino acids for years, and I think they have helped me feel better.

I'm always a little leery of "combination" things like this - I haven't had the best luck with them, and it's hard to pin down what is and what isn't working. For me, it's been better to try one supplement at a time in a low dose, and see if it helps.

It all depends on what's wrong with YOUR body. Thanks for the information!


lacey - March 29

Your welcome.

first time I went to my new doctor, I had a blood test for vit D and it was about half of what it should've been, so I am now taking vit D liquid and will happily admit, it has helped my legs.

In this country they constantly keep harping on about using sun screen or keeping uot of the sun but, it is now causing all so its of problems. Since starting on the vit D, the top half of my legs don't feel twisted anymore and much easier to walk.

eventually I will learn more about vitamins and other stuff and what will help me. ATM I have hardly any knowledge on the subject. And that's just more rubbish they thrown at us for years.


laurie747 - May 15

According to Dr. J.D. Wallach (Let's Play Doctor! and Dead Doctors Don't Lie), and I quote, "Fibromyalgia (stiff lamb diseease, adult onset muscular dystrophy) is a disease that was eliminated from lambs in 1957. It is a multiple deficiency disease caused by a high intake of fried foods and vegetable oils (margarine, cooking oils and salad dressing) and deficiencies of selenium, vitamin E and sulfur amino acids (methionine, mysteine, cystene). Treatment includes eliminating all vegetable oils and fried foods and supplementation with selenium 500 mcg, vitamin E 1200 IU, and an amino acid program that includes methionine, cysteine and cystine." Dr. Wallach's (and his wife, Dr. Ma Lan) research and books are invaluable. Hope this helps. Laurie


January - May 15

Laurie -

Lately I have been supplementing with Selenium. The usual line is don't go over 200 mcg. But I find I feel a LOT better (mood and sleep quality is what I notice) if I take 400 mcg. So this is the first I've heard of a higher dose of Selenium. Selenium ties into some vital chemical reactions in the body that are complicated, I remember reading up on it, but now I forget what other chemicals were involved!

ALSO, I have had success using supplements that add sulfur to the body. (there may be some typo's in the amino acids you list - I don't recognize some.) But methionine is one that has helped me. Also acetyl L-carnitine noticeably improves my energy.

I've been using amino acids for a LONG time - and I swear by them. I feel much better when I take them.

I will have to check out the dr. you mentioned. Thanks for the info!



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