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what "BODYMIND SYNDROME" really means....
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Jane - September 1

I think its really important to mention here that "mindbody" DOES NOT MEAN its all in your head!!! the reverse is true. its actually your mind using your body & creating symptoms. the symptoms are VERY REAL (as we all know...) I think this is why people are so dismissive of this and become hostile. enough people already think fibro isn't a valid illness. saying that its mind-related is just another slap in the face. its very important to understand that is NOT what it means. the symptoms and suffering are SO very real. I should know, I've had fibro for years now. sensitive types can only take so much stress until a threshold is reached and symptoms start to spill over. sometimes this comes after a viral infection, car accident, divorce, death, work stressors, etc... its different for everyone. I have read The Divided Mind. its amazing and says that all sorts of illnesses are caused this way, like GERD, anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, this list goes on. I tried to reccomended a different book here a few months ago and was torn apart for it. I can say that FOR ME it has helped. I am slowly getting better. I also read Freedom from Fibromyalgia which was along the same lines. this is highly advanced medicine. the idea that our mind and body are separate is pretty silly if you think about it. ie... imagine yourself cutting into a big ripe yellow lemon. cut yourself a huge wedge and place it in your mouth, bite into it (in your mind's eye).... is your mouth watering a bit? I rest my case. this is great communication! I'm so glad to see some of the posts evolving. things seem freer on this forum, just take what you like and leave the rest...

 

nardwar - August 18

YES!!! BODYMIND=SOMATIZATION DISORDER: stress, depression and anxiety converted into physical symptoms that have little or no organic basis. however these symptoms are real and not imagined. this can last for many years and come in many forms and rarely disappear completely without psychotherapy. YES YES YES!!!

 

Augustine - August 18

I remember that post. I had forgotten about it until now. you are correct, saying it is in your head will make people very very upset. I have had fibro for many many years now. I will admit that the majority of the sufferers in my support group are highly sensitive people who have dealt with some very difficult trials in their lives, like incest, abuse, death, accidents. I agree that there is a strong emotional component to this but it is very physical too. It has been in me for so long that I don't know if I could ever get it all out. I had really given up long ago & decided to try to live with it. I have to take alot of medication to make it through. People didn't go for "therapy" in my day it was an embarrassment & meant you were crazy. my daughter has been encouraging me for years, maybe I should hang up the old and go with the new. has anyone else gottn better this way. I would love to hear. Fibro is getting more prevalent here in Australia, it's a tragedy of epic proportions.

 

nardwar - August 18

the underlying cause of the pain is the mind's defense mechanism against unconscious mental stress it does not want to cope with, or even directly confront, emotions such as anger, anxiety and narcissistic rage. Rather than confront the stress and its underlying causes, the unconscious mind (acting via the limbic system) causes mild oxygen deprivation in muscles, nerves or tendons, and thereby causes physical pain. The conscious mind will therefore be distracted by this physical pain, enhancing the automatic repression process to keep the anger/rage contained in the unconscious. This strategy is designed by the brain to keep such emotional stress from surfacing in the conscious mind, thus assisting in the repression of painful emotions and preventing awareness of them. TMS could therefore be called a psychosomatic condition, in that it is a physical condition whose ultimate cause is psychological. However, having TMS does not make you a hypochondriac or a malingerer. TMS is real pain, with an immediate cause that is both real and physical. It is certainly not an indication of "mental illness." In fact, TMS patients are often highly responsible and successful individuals. What TMS is, is a "distraction pain syndrome" of sorts, a very painful strategy for staying sane in a crazy-making world.

 

marlie - August 18

I am seeing more & more of this. unfortunately it doesn't get much attention, probably because it makes some uncomfortable. it makes alot of sense to me. thanx for the info.

 

melissa - August 18

you can go to amazon.com and search -bodymind- there are many good books about this there. also you can search online for free. I was introduced to this idea on this forum a while ago, I've been making real progress towards getting better. thanks to those who post here. I hope it will help someone else too. It's hard work to go insde yourself but not as hard as wanting to die everyday from the pain. thanks, mel.

 

marlie - August 18

which books have you read?

 

barlowe - August 19

I've read Chronic Muscle Pain Syndrome by Paul Davidson & The Divided Mind by Dr John Sarno. these are both excellent books that help you to understand your condition & what to do to feel better.

 

Janet W. - August 19

this is something we should all read & pay attention to. unfortunatley it seems like poeple would rather bitch & moan about a gazillion symptoms instead of trying to figure out what the hell is REALLY going on & causing the pain. my mother is just like that. what a waste of time.... not to mention YOUR LIFE. stop focusing on every little twitch & twinge & look at what can make you feel better. otherwise you are nothing but a glorified hypochondriac. there are a shityload of them in my own family & it is REALLY annoying. why not look into wellness instead of illness? its really sad.

 

anwar - August 19

I happen to agree with the above posts, but you are really rude!

 

Annika - August 20

thank you for the above post. I had never considered this before. for the last 2 years I have been in pain & wondering why? then they tell mine is fibrmyallgias, it started a few months after my divorce becomes final, I am in therapy now & \i am starting to realize how totally pissed off I am inside (I thought I had let it go) this all make sense. thanks for the name on the books, I'm getting them today offline. janov; Annika (Netherlands)

 

Christian - August 21

Yes i actually just read the MindBody perscription and felt alot of it to be spot on, almost a mirror to myself. So alot of it i agree with. I think the down point of that book, the ending sis pritty ridiculous. Where it says to keep reading the book over and over for a month. Alot of very valid stuff in there but kind of makes for a very silly ending. What it did not really answer for me is that do i need pyschotherapy. How does one know if he or she needs it..those kinds of questions remained for me after the book.

Cheers,

Chris

 

ginny - August 21

hi Chris. I read it too. the reason you are supposed to re-read it is to let the ideas really set in. from what I understand, you know you need therapy if working on your TMS alone after a few months doesn't work on its own. that could mean that there are deeper issues that you might like to discuss with someone else. I find that journalling also helps or venting to someone I trust. Its a lot cheaper :) Gin

 

Jane - August 22

I'm really happy that you all got something out of my post. Its always a work in progress isn't it? such is life.... be well :)

 

Tom - September 1

YES YES YES.....

 

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