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Migrating joint pain?
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January - February 18

I'm so sick of hurting, I just live with it. But I noticed something odd lately, and wonder if you all can give me any info.

I developed horrible pain in one hip joint - it was so bad, I thought I might have a tiny fracture. I couldn't rotate the leg fully because the pain was too severe. It was so bad it woke me up at night. Nobody diagnosed anything, so I lived with it for well over a year.

Suddenly, that pain level has gone way down, and I can rotate the leg in ways I couldn't before. (What a pleasant surprise!)

But instead I have developed the same horrible pain in a shoulder joint. Now I can't rotate my arm normally.

These joints are both on the same side of my body. Has anybody else experienced this? Is this fibro?? I know if I run the round of doctors someone will try to sell me on surgery and I am not going there.

I did take Fosamax for a few months nearly a decade ago, and it didn't properly clear from my body after I quit. (It also gave me that "rare" necrosis of the jawbone - for anyone out there thinking about these drugs!) Now I keep hearing of people getting spontaneous fractures from that trashy drug.

Wondered if anyone else has had these symptoms that come and go? I don't think I have osteoarthritis. And I don't understand why the joint pain suddenly got better in my hip, and at the same time got worse in my shoulder. I haven't had any recent trauma, so I'm mystified. The pain I've had in the hip and the shoulder is so much worse than my regular pain.

Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.


Fantod - February 18

January - I'm guessing that you had a raging case of bursitis in your hip and now it is in your shoulder. I have it in all four (hip & shoulder) joints and it makes me nuts. This is another "perk' of FMS and the pain from bursitis can be horrible.

I went through PT and heat therapy to "fix" my hip problem and then my shoulders started up. I honestly thought that my vile osteoarthitis had attacked my shoulder joints. It was impossible to rotate my arms without a lot of pain and the joint was making noise. The bursa were so swollen that they were actually pushing the joints out of position.

If you like pineapple, eat as much of it as you can stand. It has an enzyme that helps break up bursitis. Or, you can go to the health food store and purchase capsules that have the enzyme.

The standard treatment is deep heat and usually a cortisone shot. I'm not a big fan of the latter for a lot of reasons. If you can find someone (holistic) that uses Sarapin that would be a much better choice. It is a derivative of the Pitcher Plant and has been around since the 1930's. Not well known, but a very effective pain killer with no known side effects. My rheumy uses it.

You really should see a doctor just to be sure that you are not developing frozen shoulder which is also very painful. Bursitis can be very persistent (exhibit A here) so the sooner you see someone the better. I went to my regular orthopedist first who promptly referred me to a shoulder specialist.

I hope that my explanation makes sense. I'm still fighting off this bug and a little hazy at times. Enjoy the weekend.


January - February 18

Thank you, thank you! I love pineapple and will get some tomorrow!

I've turned down cortisone shots repeatedly. It was dumped on me as a kid for med. problems so I am now enjoying the after-effects. Been meaning to look up sarapin, thanks for the reminder.

I considered bursitis with my hip, and the idea was terrifying. So I blocked it out. Do you have it flaring up and then easing off? You poor girl with it in all four! And yes, the pain of bursitis (If that's what this is) gives a whole new experience!

Can't believe how things just keep cropping up. I have been a fighter for so many years! I go around bragging about how I beat this or that. Then I get something new! LOL! The Universe is just cleansing my ego!

Glad you are better. I'm sure you know about oscillococcinum - but in case you don't - I keep it here, and the minute I feel the hint of a cold, I take it. It works like a charm for me. Usually…

Thanks again, and feel better soon!


Fantod - February 19

January - Happy pineapple to you! Yes, I have been chugging oscillococcinum with great regularity, so far to no avail. Whatever has got a hold on me is determined to be my new best friend.

My bursitis comes and goes at will no matter what I've done to treat it. It gives persistent a whole new meaning. At the moment, my right shoulder is affected. I'm right-handed so that makes everything a challenge. Okay, I'm done

I hope that the pineapple does help. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.


mshouleruk - February 19

What you describe very much matches a muscle imbalance problem. One must understand that all of the muscles of our body keep our body in allignment. Without muscles, our frame would just drop to the floor like a bag of bones. When certain muscles become stronger then the opposing muscle, then tension in the body starts to increase (the tension focuses on a specific joint corresponding to the imbalance). The more this occurs, eventually painful conditions can develop like TMJ, Hip Pain, Back Pain, you name it.

I have this problem in my own body as I am missing a stabilizing muscle on the right side of my neck (genetic defect? ) and have battled with pain on the left side of my jaw for many years. Unfortunately I can't just grow a new muscle to correct the imbalance, and I try to manage it as best as possible by eating mostly soft foods.

What it sound's like happend in your case; is the muscle imbalance that was putting excessive tension on your hip has shifted up your body to the shoulder joint. This explains why the pain in your hip has decreased and why the pain has transferred to your shoulder joint instead (both on the same side of your body).

Apart from treating the muscle imbalance (if you agree with me that this might be the cause), specific nutrients that help keep the joint healthy are usually beneficial in most cases. As Fantod mentioned, the Pineapple enzyme "Bromelain" acts as an anti-inflammatory agent which can help reduce pain levels. There is another enzyme, less well known, although arguable more effective, which is quickly gaining popularity in the alternative field named "Serrapeptase".

Here's a interesting blog where two people left a comment about the use of Serrapeptase for Bursitis (bottom of page).

Also consider Hyaluronic Acid which people rave about for joint pain/problems. Raving people doesn't always have to be related to a conspiracy theory, check the reviews below on Amazon to see what people are saying about Hyaluronic Acid.


Fantod - February 20

mshouleruk - Thank you for your very imformative post. I have ordered some Serrapeptase. I will report back on how it works in a couple of weeks.


January - February 21

Actually, I don't believe I am describing a muscle imbalance. Have you ever had a torn rotator cuff or a broken bone? It hurts like that. Not like tight muscles or spasms, which I've also had.

Been taking hyaluronic acid for a couple years - a good dose of it too. I can't say it has "cured" me or made a major difference - but in theory, it makes sense to me on many levels. I did notice reduced pain in my knees, and have recommended it to others.

Yes, I know about bromelain - the supplement can irritate the stomach, so it is best (for me) to eat pineapple.

Serrapeptase is a new one on me. I will look it up.


January - February 21

I just checked on serrapeptase clinical studies, and it looks very, very interesting. Apparently, one problem is getting it past the stomach and into the small intestines, so the formulation of the supplement makes a difference.

Thanks for the info! Worth checking into.


mshouleruk - February 21


January 11, 2011

Rotator Cuff Tendonitis: A Muscle Imbalance Problem

At its very basic level, rotator cuff tendonitis is a muscle imbalance problem. Scientific research states that 90% of shoulder pain has at least something to do with the rotator cuff. To understand what is going on there, you need to understand the role of the rotator cuff.

The rotator cuff acts as a counterbalance to the larger muscles that are trying to move the arm. If not for the rotator cuff, as the deltoid, trapezius, or pectoralis muscles move the arm, the head of the round ball on top of the arm bone would slip out of the very shallow dish that it is in. This is called the glenoid fossa.

All movements require a very complex system of essentially muscles moving in two different directions to keep this big ball sitting on a tiny dish. The one thing you notice about shoulder pain as a practicing physician is it can happen to people who are in bad shape, people who are in good shape – it just happens.

One thing that we often see in our office is what we call a “high-riding shoulder”. This process is the result of a relative weakening of the floor muscles of the rotator cuff when compared to the overlying muscles of the deltoid, pectoralis, and trapezius muscle groups.

The muscles involved lead to an upward migration of the humerus and the humeral head (the big ball), that compresses the supraspinatus, one of the muscles of the rotator cuff up against the roof of the shoulder, which is very hard, and this compromises its blood flow, leading to significant stress and disease within the rotator cuff.

This process occurs to many people on a daily basis. The main reason for this problem is that people continue this muscle imbalance. There are great exercises for the larger muscle groups and for the small muscle groups as well. However, the small muscle exercise groups are not as well-known, but are actually very easy to do.

I think when people come to understand that it is a muscle imbalance problem more than anything is when we will start to make some inroads into solving the nearly universal problem of shoulder pain and rotator cuff tendonitis.



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