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I'm SO Exhausted - any ideas?
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Stacey373 - October 4

Hello Everyone - I know there have been many suggestions about what to take to sleep...I'm just too darn tired to even look for those, so I thought I'd post a new thread and hopefully you all can remind me what you have suggested before.

I actually just called my doctor to see if she could call me something temporary in just so I can get 1 or 2 nights of some sleep.(now I'm waiting to hear back from her) Obviously I need to find something more permanent and everything I've been doing isn't working any longer.

For the past couple of weeks or longer I have been sleeping...except I literally wake up every 1-2 hours all night long. I'll wake up for a few minutes and then fall right back to sleep and this goes on all night.

For the past few days I have only slept some-what okay for 1 night. otherwise I haven't slept at all. obviously I've been in alot more pain than normal because of this and I think now I'm just in a vicious cycle....no sleep, more over-all pain. I don't think this is stress related. I have been dealing with a personal problem (as stated in another post) by it's not like I've really been "stressing" about this or my thoughts are racing at night or anything like that.

In the past I've tried amnitripline (can't spell that!) and Ambien and neither one worked at all. I usually only have to take either a couple flexeril or an OTC sleeping pill along with a shot of Nyquil cough and I sleep just fine. Last night I was so desperate to sleep that I took both the flexeril and sleeping pill and STILL couldn't sleep.

I seriously need to get something that will end this cycle. I can't keep going like this...I have things to get done and I can't even see clearly enough to drive, much less get up and do anything productive! Not to mention I'm taking more of my pain meds than I should be and I can't keep doing this much longer.

I appreciate any suggestions you all have. Thanks, Stacey :o)

 

Fantod - October 4

Stacey373 - Did you realize that Nyquil has 25.0 percent alcohol? Alcohol interferes with sleep and it certainly should not be mixed with any medication.

As you may remember, FMS interrupts the deep sleep cycle with short bursts of high intensity brain activity. Your muscles need deep sleep to repair themselves. No deep sleep means higher levels of pain. Between that and the stress over the situation with your friend, it is no wonder you are not sleeping.

I know that you do not have insurance. Have you tried Melatonin and/or Calms Forte to help you sleep? You can find them in any decent health food store. They are not too expensive. I stopped using Amitriptyline awhile ago. I take 1 1/2 mg Melatonin and one Calms Forte tablet every night at bedtime. I am very sensitive to meds so you may have to tinker around to find the right dose for you.

I hope that this information helps. Take care.

 

Stacey373 - October 4

I guess I didn't realize the Nyquil was that bad for me to be taking. I won't take it anymore. I just talked to my doctor and she won't give me anything...she said she doesn't want a prescription sleeping med interfering with everything I already take. She told me to up the dosage of magnesium to 500 mgs and I know that is not going to work for me.

It was the Calms forte and Melatonin I couldn't remember the names of. I'm going to see if I can find those in town today and hopefully start that tonight. I will call around and hopefully my husband can pick those up for me on his way home tonight. (I really shouldn't be driving feeling this way!) Can you take those with the flexeril? That's really the only meds I take at night, except for Lexapro, so I want to make sure I can take those together. I will also talk to the pharmacist to make sure.

Thank You! I knew you would come to my rescue! LOL Stacey :o)

 

Fantod - October 4

Check with the pharmacist on this just to be safe. I take mine with Gabapentin and have not had any problems.

The Vitamin Shoppe carries both of these items if there is one in your town. Also, you should be able to find Melatonin at any major drug store.
I hope that you get some sleep and feel better soon.

 

Fantod - October 4

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Fantod - October 4

Melatonin is a hormone made by the pineal gland , a small gland in the brain. Melatonin helps control your sleep and wake cycles. Very small amounts of it are found in foods such as meats, grains, fruits, and vegetables. You can also buy it as a supplement.

What does natural melatonin do in the body?
Your body has its own internal clock that controls your natural cycle of sleeping and waking hours. In part, your body clock controls how much melatonin your body makes. Normally, melatonin levels begin to rise in the mid- to late evening, remain high for most of the night, and then drop in the early morning hours.

Light affects how much melatonin your body produces. During the shorter days of the winter months, your body may produce melatonin either earlier or later in the day than usual. This change can lead to symptoms of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), or winter depression.1

Natural melatonin levels slowly drop with age. Some older adults make very small amounts of it or none at all.

Why is melatonin used as a dietary supplement?
Melatonin supplements are sometimes used to treat jet lag or sleep problems (insomnia). Scientists are also looking at other good uses for melatonin, such as:

Treating seasonal affective disorder (SAD).
Helping to control sleep patterns for people who work night shifts.
Preventing or reducing problems with sleeping and confusion after surgery.
Reducing chronic cluster headaches.
It may be that melatonin, when taken as a supplement, can stop or slow the spread of cancer, make the immune system stronger, or slow down the aging process. But these areas need more research.

Melatonin is also being studied to see if it can be used to treat sleep problems in people who are blind.2 Since these people cannot see light, they may have sleep problems such as sleeping during the day and being awake at night.

Is taking a melatonin dietary supplement safe?
In most cases, melatonin supplements are safe in low doses for short-term and long-term use. But be sure to talk with your doctor about taking them.

Children and pregnant or nursing women should not take melatonin without talking to a doctor first.

Melatonin does have side effects. But they will go away when you stop taking the supplement. Side effects include:

Sleepiness.
Changes in blood vessels that may affect blood flow.
Lower body temperature.
Stomach problems.
Headache.
Morning grogginess.
Vivid dreams.
If melatonin makes you feel drowsy, do not drive or operate machinery when you are taking it.

During health exams, tell your doctor if you are taking melatonin. And tell your doctor if you are having trouble sleeping (insomnia), since it may be related to a medical problem.

In adults, melatonin is taken in doses from 0.2 to 20.0 mg, based on the reason for its use. The right dose varies widely from one person to another. Talk to your doctor to learn the right dosage and to find out if melatonin is right for you.

Where can you find melatonin as a supplement?
You can buy melatonin supplements without a prescription at health food stores, drugstores, and online. Melatonin should only be taken in its man-made form. The form that comes from ground-up cow pineal glands is rarely used, since it may spread disease.

 

kvc33 - October 5

Although you do not feel like you are worrying about your problem your subconscious mind probably is and that may be what is waking you. Try valerian and camomile as herbal sleep aids. Do some deep breathing before bed and listen to a relaxation tape.

 

Stacey373 - October 5

I have to be honest...I went ahead and took Nyquil last night. But only so I could hopefully get enough sleep that I could drive today and get the other sleeping meds. So I actually got some sleep (Thank goodness!) and today I am going to go down town and pick up the other stuff and hopefully get the dosage figured out by this weekend. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Thanks, Stacey :o)

 

Noca - October 5

There's always Lunesta you could try, or Rozerem. Both are good sleep aids available in the US.

 

axxie - October 7

Hey Stacey373, ever think you can ask your doctor to prescribe Ralivia or tramadol. I have now been prescribe this, and I find that it's a good pain management pill, and I actually sleep with it. Tramadol belongs to a group of medications called opioid analgesics. It is used to manage moderate to moderately severe pain for people who need several days or more of pain control. It decreases pain by working on the central nervous system.

 

Stacey373 - October 7

Hi Axxie - I was on Ultram for many years. My pain got so bad that it just didn't work anymore. My doctor refuses to give me anything for sleeping and I'm assuming at this point, she also doesn't want to give me any other medications either. I know if I take my pain pills too late in the day, they will keep me up at night. So I make sure I don't take them after a certain time each day.

I don't know...maybe I have been stressing over my friend and whatever without realizing it. as soon as I decided to do what I needed to do, I was able to sleep a little better. Yesterday I even realized that I had been letting her "intimidate" me into doing things for her (like babysitting) and I finally stood up to her! I know that sounds crazy (being intimidated by her) but I think it's because she is identical to my Mom (same personality) and I never did stand up to my Mom until a few years ago. so maybe (without realizing it until now) I was just letting her treat me the way my Mom used to. I suddenly realized this was stupid and there was no reason for me to be feeling this way.

Anyways....one of the things she asked me to do was watch her kids both Friday and Saturday this weekend (so she can go out both nights) and I actually told her no and it felt pretty damn good! I'm not going to let her take advantage of me any longer and if I lose her as a friend, oh well, I guess she never was a good friend to begin with, right?

Sorry....I think I needed to get that all out! I think I will be okay now. I appreciate all your guy's suggestions, Take Care, Stacey :o)

 

Fantod - October 7

Stacey - I don't understand why your doctor will not give you anything to help with sleep. That is a crucial part of treating FMS. I think that you really need to get up in her face about it. Her refusal to give you a sleep aid is only making your symptoms worse. Take care.

 

Stacey373 - October 7

I agree fantod. She said it was because she didn't want the sleeping meds to interfere with what I'm already taking. Doesn't make much sense to me. I'm going to talk to her on my next visit about this. When I talked to her on the phone she was very busy and it's always really hard to talk to her that way. But when I see her in person I will be able to talk to her more about this. she knows I'm taking OTC sleeping meds and has never said anything about that....so I don't know why a prescription strength would be much different.

But I promise I will talk to her the next time. Thanks, Stacey :o)

 

bbass - October 7

Hi. Just a thought....lexapro can be activating, according to the doctor. Maybe you could take it earlier? Might help with falling asleep?

 

Canada17 - October 8

I sleep best the nights my husband and I are intimate. I am not the typical female stereotype that wants to cuddle after the act. I fall asleep, and I usually sleep through the night unless I have to pee (and now that I'm pregnant, that's every night).

I've tried every medication the doctors have given me to treat my sleep issues and Fibro. They either didn't have a desired effect, or I reacted very badly to them.

My doctor tested my iron and b12 levels. She said I was very low on both. I started receiving injections of both and an iron supplement. I received three shots (once a week) of b12 and the difference was amazing. Not only did I sleep better, I felt better when I woke up and had more energy and less pain during the day.

However, I had an allergic reaction the the b12 injections and had to stop. Within two weeks I was back to where I was before I started them.

I would have your doctor test your iron and b12 levels, if he hasn't already. If I could continue on the b12 I would in a heart beat. My only option now is to find an apothecary who can concoct a completely pure version of b12 as it is the additives that I am allergic to. But, it is then not considered an identifiable drug and not covered by insurance. And, because it is special made just for me, it's even more expensive...I just can't afford to pay for it right now. It's quite frustrating.

So, sex is my best bet for a good night's sleep. That and light exercise... : )

 

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