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maryfw - April 25

I have been having alot of trouble with heart palpitations lately. When my feet hit the floor in the morning as I get our of bed my heart races. Then I am exhausted. Today it is happening of and on all day. I have had an EKG and a Holter Monitor before and everything is fine. Should I press my doc for a stress test?

 

larry - April 25

Nearly 100% of Fibro Patients are hypothyroid which is undiagnosed 90% of the time. Thyroid probems cause heart palpitations. To under why your thyroid issue will be mis-diagnosed 90% of the time I suggest visiting "StopTheThyroidMadness.com".
Also, Mary Shomon, the author of "Living Well With Hypothyroidism, what your doctor doesn't tell you that You Need to know" can answer your questions about fibro, autoimmune disorders, thyroid issues, RA, etc
in her books and on her website- http://thyroid.about.com. Good luck.

 

larry - April 25

This article is from the Fibro and Fatigue.com website on why thyroid prrobems are misdiagnosed 90% of the tie...............................Are All Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/Fibromyalgia Patients Low Thyroid? ..............................
There is mounting evidence that hypothyroidism is present in the majority of and possibly all Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia (CFIDS/FM) patients. The problem is that standard blood testing that consists of TSH, T4 and T3 does not detect it. Thus, many CFIDS/FM patients are erroneously told over and over that their thyroid levels are fine. TSH is secreted by the pituitary in the brain, telling the thyroid to secrete T4, which is not the active thyroid hormone. T4 must then be converted in the body to the active thyroid hormone T3. When T4 and T3 levels drop, the TSH should increase indicating hypothyroidism. This is the standard way to diagnose hypothyroidism. There are, however, many things that result in hypothyroidism but are not diagnosed using the standard TSH and T4 and T3 testing. This method misses thyroid problems with CFIDS/FM patients 90% of the time. ----------------------------------
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of all, there is clearly pituitary dysfunction in these diseases from a variety of causes, including viruses, bacteria, stress, yeast, inflammation, toxins, pesticides, plastics and mitochondria dysfunction. This results in low normal TSH levels along with low normal T4 and T3 levels. Very few doctors understand the significance of this and incorrectly state that the thyroid is fine. In addition, most Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia patients do not adequately convert T4 to the active T3, resulting in low levels of active thyroid hormone and suffer from low thyroid despite having a normal TSH. Also, there is another problem in that T4 cannot only be converted to T3, but it can also be converted to reverse T3, which is inactive and blocks the thyroid receptor. Very few practicing physicians consider this, but it is a major problem.
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is an evolutionary enzyme that increases the T4 to reverse T3 in times of stress and illness. This worked well for our ancestors because in times of famine it allowed those who had this enzyme to survive. But in our modern society, reverse T3 works against us causing fatigue, difficulty losing weight, brain fog, muscle aches and all the other symptoms of hypothyroidism. Reverse T3 can be increased with chronic illnesses such as CFIDS/FM, yo-yo dieting (often responsible for the quick weight gain after losing weight), stress, heavy metals and infections commonly present in CFIDS/FM. ------------------------------------------
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thyroid not only results in undesirable symptoms, but it also increases the risk of heart disease and cancer. When more extensive testing is done, these patients are so relieved to be shown on paper that their thyroid is truly low and that they can expect to be feeling better soon. There are only a few labs that can accurately measure reverse T3. It is difficult for labs to do and many labs will erroneously indicate normal or low levels of reverse T3. Some doctors that have ordered reverse T3 on patients have found it not to be useful because they are not getting accurate results or they don't know how to interpret the results. In addition, there is also a thyroid resistance syndrome found in these patients, meaning that there may be thyroid in the blood but there is no thyroid effect. This has been discounted in the past, but more and more evidence is surfacing proving that this is indeed a significant problem with these conditions. --------------------------------------------
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combination of factors present in CFIDS/FM, including pituitary dysfunction, high reverse T3, and thyroid resistance, results in most, if not all, CFIDS/FM patients having inadequate thyroid effect. T4 preparations such as Synthroid and Levoxyl rarely work and Armour thyroid, a pig glandular product, is somewhat better, but definitely not adequate for most patients. The treating physician must know when to use a T4/T3 combination or straight T3. T3 works the best for many of these patients, but Cytomel, a very short acting T3 available at normal pharmacies, is also a poor choice because the varying blood levels cause problems. Compounded timed release T3 is usually the best treatment. ----------------------------------------------
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to achieve significant improvement, the treating physician must be very knowledgeable about T3 and must realize that when on T3, standard bloods blood test will lead one to dose incorrectly and not obtain significant benefits. Doctors trained on how to use thyroid with CFIDS/FM patients cannot believe how effective it is when used properly. This includes doctors who previously felt that they were thyroid experts and had been using thyroid with CFIDS/FM for a long time. Ultimately, it is the expertise and dosing of the T3 or T4/T3 combinations and the makeup of the medications that determines the patient outcome and success of treatment. ------------------------------------------
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info can be foundt at this address; http:www.fibroandfatigue.com/clinical.php . Good luck!!

 

maryfw - April 26

Larry, bottom line it for me. Is there something I can take on my own? Do I need to go to a particular doctor for a specific medicine?

 

teresat - April 26

I won't type a long answer here. It is very reminiscent of the problems I had prior to my DX of FMS & lupus!! I had Grave's disease! It is a auto-immune disease that effects your thyroid. It is HYPERTHROID & causes heart palpitations, digestive problems, weight loss...& many other symptoms!! I would press my DR, if I were you, for a thyroid test!!!!

 

maryfw - May 3

Another symptom. When I pick up something like my purse I get the heart palpitations, shortness of breath etc.

Anyone else have this too?

 

Kimber2270 - May 3

My regular doctor did the thyroid and autoimmune tests and all came back negative although I had all of the symptoms of hypothyroid. I then went to a homeopathic doctor and I told him my symptoms. He also had me take my body temp for a week right when I woke, which ran around 97 degrees. He put me on Armour Thyroid and most symptoms have gone away, including the heart palpitations. I now get them occasionally if I have too much caffeine.

 

maryfw - May 4

When I got out of bed this morning and got ready for work my heart rate was 118 beats a minute and I was out of breath. Do you really think it could be thyroid?

 

JJ1 - May 4

maryfw, I know you said you have had an EKG, but was that recently for the current symptoms? If not recent or for different symptoms I think I would go back to the cardiologist if I were you. Just for some peace of mind. I was having pretty bad heart palpitations but have attributed it to anemia. Now that I have my iron levels back up the palpitations have gone away. Have you had blood work run recently?

 

teresat - May 5

YES!! I~REALLY~ believe it's your THYROID!!! Your symptom are SO similar to mine!! Do you miss meals & when you do is it very small meals? When you eat does it sap ALL of your energy? Have you lost any weight lately? Are you fidgety & feel nervous most of the time? These were just SOME of the symptoms I was experiencing before I was DX with Grave's disease! Please have your thyroid checked!!

 

maryfw - May 7

Thank you all for you comments and being there!! I go in to see my doc today for an EKG and will talk to him more about my thyroid.

 

tcmby - May 7

hi maryfw, there are many reasons for palpitations.... I know because I have dealt with them myself. they can be due to stress, anxiety, low magnesium or potassium levels, among many other things... they can be very scary but apparently they are very very common with us fibro patients. take care & good luck.

 

maryfw - May 8

My doc is sending me to a cardiologist. He checked my thyroid before and it was normal. My BP yesterday was 98/66 and my temperature was 97.3. My Bp is low and then when I stand up I think it is going up to compensate and then I am out of breath and tired!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the cardiologist will know more.

 

larry - May 8

Of course your doctor says your thyroid is fine, 90% of the time they will. You are at the beginning of an endless cycle of listening to doctors that don't understand fibro. There really is no need to suffer more than 1 year with this as there are answers on reversing this syndrome but doctors are not taught this in medical school. Please try to read some of the books I suggested or visit the sites i suggest for clarity. This is worth repeating, here goes.........Nearly 100% of Fibro Patients are hypothyroid which is undiagnosed 90% of the time. Thyroid probems cause heart palpitations. To under why your thyroid issue will be mis-diagnosed 90% of the time I suggest visiting "StopTheThyroidMadness.com". Also, Mary Shomon, the author of "Living Well With Hypothyroidism, what your doctor doesn't tell you that You Need to know" can answer your questions about fibro, autoimmune disorders, thyroid issues, RA, etc in her books and on her website- http://thyroid.about.com. If you live in the US you can visit a fibro and fatigue center. Good luck.

 

maryfw - May 10

OK. Unless I chicken out, I have scheduled an appointment at the Fibro & Fatigue center in Atlanta.

I was also diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse when I was 15 but my recent doc said I dont have it but the more I read the more it sounds like I do have it. Atleast that is treatable with something. Better than being told "Oh well".

 

JJ1 - May 10

maryfw - My daughter has mitral valve prolapse and except for surgery, I don't think it is treatable. But it is also not anything to worry about -- she just has to take antibiotics prior to any dental work and any surgeries because there is an increased risk of infection to the heart. Her's doesn't bother her anymore and last time she went to the cardiologist they did not detect the problem, but she is still taking antibiotics when needed (she recently had wisdom teeth removed and had to take the antibiotics then). Good luck and hope all works out well with you.

 

skidoo - May 10

All I can say is caveat emptor or let the buyer beware. I inquired with a respected physician about the Fibro Center in Houston and he told me that it was a waste of money. Think of it like a health/diet resort where you do well while in the program and once you finish it is back to the same and you are not cured because there is no cure for fibro. Nevertheless, I have been curious of the results as well and can not find a single real person I can talk to who is cured and who has successfully completed the program ,plus all I get are incomplete answers about the cost. It will be around $325 for your first visit but that doesn’t include any supplements or injections they give you and you will definitely be asked to make return visits. But go there with an open mind, but don’t let yourself get screwed. You need to question and research the things that don’t make sense. Run their recommendations by a trusted physician. Don’t let them inject you with anything that you don’t know 100 percent what is in it. They may try to give you an injection of some magic potion on your first visit BEFORE they even have any blood test results to tell you what is wrong. I hear this potion has vitamins and other supplements that give you an energy boost and have you soon thinking, wow, I really do feel better but it is only a temporary high. You will pay for everything out of pocket with no assurance that your insurance provider will cover. You may want to make an inquiry with your health insurance provider before you make your visit so you can make sure what is and isn't covered. The fibro and fatigue center should be able to make this inquiry for you or give you enough inforomattion about what they are going to do (codes) so you can call your insurance.

 

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