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fibro, polycystic ovaries, thyroid & fibrocystic breasts
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larry - April 10

There is a huge connection of these conditions to each other. Mary Sholom's books talks about how nearly all fibro patients have hypothyroidism (despite what their blood tests show) and how fibro and hyothyroidism is tied to a deficency that creates fibrocystic breast and polycystic ovary syndrome. Here is an excerpt from Dr. Flechas website that draws the connection among these conditions. "Research work has shown that iodine deficiency in the thyroid presents as a thyroid goiter (enlargement of the thyroid). In those areas of the world where iodine deficiency is very high, such as in Switzerland and in certain areas of Asia and Africa, there are also higher incidents of thyroid cancer. Iodine is also concentrated by breast tissue, and a lack of iodine in the breasts manifests as fibrocystic breast disease (painful breasts with nodules and cysts and often more symptomatic prior to menstrual periods). 93% of American women have fibrocystic breast disease and the longer this disease exists, the higher the potential risk for development of breast cancer. 20% of all iodine in the human body is stored in the skin, specifically in the sweat glands. Lack of iodine in the sweat glands manifests as dry skin with a decreased ability to sweat. Iodine can also be concentrated in the stomach tissue, and the lack of iodine in the stomach manifests as achlorhydria (lack of digestive acid production). Iodine is used by the stomach cells, also known as parietal cells, to concentrate chloride which is necessary to produce hydrochloric acid (digestive acid). With the prolonged presence of achlorhydria, there is a much higher incidence of stomach cancer. Iodine is concentrated in the lacrymal glands of the eye, and a lack of iodine can cause dry eyes. Iodine can also be concentrated in the parotid and submandibular glands of the mouth, and iodine deficiency here can result in dry mouth. Iodine can be concentrated in the ovaries, and Russian studies done some years ago showed a relationship between iodine deficiency and the presence of cysts in the ovaries. The greater the iodine deficiency, the more ovarian cysts a woman produces. In its extreme form, this condition is known as polycystic ovarian disease." For more detailed info on thyroid disease and fibro and polycystic ovary syndrome and the fibrocystic breast connections you can access the website at " http://www.helpmythyroid.com/index.htm"



 

SAHMof2 - April 10

Thanks for the information! I have all that! I'm Hypothyroid and I take 100 mcg of levoxyl a day, I've got Fibrocystic breast, Pcos and FM and CC. The Only thing I've found that helps my Fibrocystic breasts is Natural progesterone cream. It's Amazing what a differance it's made in me!

 

Connie - April 10

I strongly disagree with the statement that fibrocystic beast disease raises the potential for breast cancer. This is based on very old studies which were conducted over twenty-five years ago. You are INCORRECT. Larry, saying that research work has shown this or that without listing how and with whom the study was conducted is irresponsible. You toss out so many conclusions which are not based on current medical studies.Anecdotal information from internet sites is not any better than taking medical advice from your mechanic. Look out everyone.Just because it is written, doesn't mean it is true! This applies to books, the internet and even some health care providers. Why the do you think Iodine was added to our salt so many years ago? Old facts Larry. Way out of date.

 

larry - April 10

Connie, pls do your research before posting such angry, negative comments that could get in the way of people geting better. This info is not out of date, these results are the end product of having removed iodine from our diets 25 years ago. I have had SEVERAL doctors inform me of iodine issues and tests me for this deficiency. Additionally, I have been tested by Dr. Flechas. Even though the tests were all different, blood, urine and many, many skin patch tests- All of the results were excatly the same! Iodine deficiency is well known and addressed among the more progressive medical community that is still open, interested and receptive to new data. The medical studies that you need are available on the website I posted - "http://www.helpmyth
yroid.com/index.htm"
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These new studies show the results of what has happened over he last 25 years since iodine was removed from our foods. I will post the doctors names for you on another post.

 

JJ1 - April 10

I just saw a breast cancer specialist/surgeon yesterday and was told specifically that fibrocystic breasts did not pose an increased risk for cancer. However, I can see how it can make cancer more difficult to detect on self examination.

 

larry - April 10

Connie- These are the Doctor's whose studies that you are in disagreement with and feel they are incorrect. (I have worked with two of them). This info is on the site that I posted previously for you to research. I always post website info in an attempt to provide the data proactively. By doing this, people have a chance to review the data first and hopefully this keeps the feedback also based on data and less emotional, negative, combative and destructive. This is just one of many sites with this info. The website is http://helpmythyroid.com/index.htm". --- Some of these articles are rebuttals that might address the same concerns that you have.----

Iodine Research----“Effect of daily ingestion of a tablet containing 5mg Iodine and 7.5mg Iodide as the potassium salt, for a period of 3 months, on the results of thyroid function tests and thyroid volume by ultrasonometry in ten euthyroid Caucasian Women.”
Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D., and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 6-20, 2002----- “Iodine sufficiency of the whole human body”
Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 30-41, 2002.---“Effect of daily ingestion of Iodoral” Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph.. ----“The Wolff-Chaikoff Effect: Crying Wolf?” Guy E. Abraham, M.D.----“The safe and effective implementation of orthoiodosupplementation in medical practice.” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., The Original Internist, Vol. 11, No. 1, March 2004. Pages 17-36. ---“ Origin of the word CRETIN” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., Jorge D. Flechas, M.D.—“The Concept of Orthoiodosupplementation and its Clinical Implications” Guy E. Abraham, M.D.---“Serum Inorganic Iodide Levels Following Ingestion of a Tablet Form of Lugol Solution: Evidence for an Enterohepatic Circulation of Iodine." Guy E. Abraham, M.D.
“A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D. –“Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A Case Report” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.---“ Validation of the Orthoiodosupplementation Program: A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine.” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.
“The saliva/serum iodide ratio as an index of sodium/iodide symporter efficiency.”
Guy E. Abraham, M.D., D. Brownstein, M.D., and J.D. Flechas, M.D.





Guy E. Abraham, M.D., Jorge D. Flechas, M.D.



The Safe and Effective Implementation of Orthoiodosupplementation in Medical Practice

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



The Concept of Orthoiodosupplementation and its Clinical Implications

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



Serum Inorganic Iodide Levels Following Ingestion of a Tablet Form of Lugol Solution: Evidence for an Enterohepatic Circulation of Iodine."

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A Case Report

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



Validation of the Orthoiodosupplementation Program: A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine.

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



The saliva/serum iodide ratio as an index of sodium/iodide symporter efficiency.

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., D. Brownstein, M.D., and J.D. Flechas, M.D.






















Effect of daily ingestion of a tablet containing 5mg Iodine and 7.5mg Iodide as the potassium salt, for a period of 3 months, on the results of thyroid function tests and thyroid volume by ultrasonometry in ten euthyroid Caucasian Women.

Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D., and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 6-20, 2002



Iodine sufficiency of the whole human body

Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 30-41, 2002.



Effect of daily ingestion of Iodoral

Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph.



The Wolff-Chaikoff Effect: Crying Wolf?


Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



The safe and effective implementation of orthoiodosupplementation in medical practice.

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., The Original Internist, Vol. 11, No. 1, March 2004. Pages 17-36.



Origin of the word CRETIN

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., Jorge D. Flechas, M.D.



The Safe and Effective Implementation of Orthoiodosupplementation in Medical Practice

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



The Concept of Orthoiodosupplementation and its Clinical Implications

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



Serum Inorganic Iodide Levels Following Ingestion of a Tablet Form of Lugol Solution: Evidence for an Enterohepatic Circulation of Iodine."

Guy E. Abraham, M.D.



A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A Case Report

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



Validation of the Orthoiodosupplementation Program: A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine.

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.



The saliva/serum iodide ratio as an index of sodium/iodide symporter efficiency.

Guy E. Abraham, M.D., D. Brownstein, M.D., and J.D. Flechas, M.D.











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larry - April 10

Ouch!!!! Sorry about the double posting of the articles and doctors. ....It should read like this........Iodine Research----“Effect of daily ingestion of a tablet containing 5mg Iodine and 7.5mg Iodide as the potassium salt, for a period of 3 months, on the results of thyroid function tests and thyroid volume by ultrasonometry in ten euthyroid Caucasian Women.”
Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D., and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 6-20, 2002----- “Iodine sufficiency of the whole human body”
Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph., The Original Internist 9: 30-41, 2002.---“Effect of daily ingestion of Iodoral” Guy. E. Abraham M.D., Jorge D. Flechas M.D. and John C. Hakala R.Ph.. ----“The Wolff-Chaikoff Effect: Crying Wolf?” Guy E. Abraham, M.D.----“The safe and effective implementation of orthoiodosupplementation in medical practice.” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., The Original Internist, Vol. 11, No. 1, March 2004. Pages 17-36. ---“ Origin of the word CRETIN” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., Jorge D. Flechas, M.D.—“The Concept of Orthoiodosupplementation and its Clinical Implications” Guy E. Abraham, M.D.---“Serum Inorganic Iodide Levels Following Ingestion of a Tablet Form of Lugol Solution: Evidence for an Enterohepatic Circulation of Iodine." Guy E. Abraham, M.D.
“A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D. –“Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A Case Report” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.---“ Validation of the Orthoiodosupplementation Program: A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby's Editorial on Iodine.” Guy E. Abraham, M.D., David Brownstein, M.D.
“The saliva/serum iodide ratio as an index of sodium/iodide symporter efficiency.”
Guy E. Abraham, M.D., D. Brownstein, M.D., and J.D. Flechas, M.D.

 

Connie - April 10

If you can't take the heat without feeling threatened, get out of the "kitchen." If we followed every suggestion you have posted the poor house would be full. Your statement concerning breast cancer and fibrocystic breast disease is incorrect. Thank you JJ1 for your response.

 

larry - April 10

Thank you for demonstrating a perfect example of "Case and Point" . If you read the posts and read the data you would have read that the statement you are debating is an exact quote of Dr. Flechas based on his research. Maybe you can debate Dr. Flechas and his collegiates? I have worked with him and found him to be very approachable. My wish for you is for inner peace so that you may have a gentle healing.

 

Connie - April 10

gag

 

JJ1 - April 10

Larry, you work with doctors? I don't remember you mentioning that before? I didn't realize you were in the medical field. Regarding fibocystic breasts and risk of cancer, there are some types of fibrocystic breasts that do have an increased risk from what I can read on the internet, but it is only for this certain group and not all. Also see some discussion of iodine relieving the soreness of fibrocystic breast disease. I use iodized salt. Don't have much soreness. Just lumpy breasts.

 

Iinda - April 11

I fail to see the point in this continous & ongoing proving or disproving each other right or wrong on this darn forum. why is it so important to be right? when people tried to discuss their mindbody books they got jumped on, that fibrofix lady was driven away, larry gets it from all sides ... enough already. let people post their ideas, if you don't happen to like them or agree... oh well.... c'est la vie! it is impossible for everyone to agree. even the doctors don't agree for heavens sake! I have seen some people sternly reprimand others for not "using quotes" when pasting or not "siting references" or daring to not be "keenly aware of copywrites" etc... my god! are we all writing term papers out here or are we trying to help each other?

 

SAHMof2 - April 11

I've had Fibrocystic breasts for as long as I can remember and my Ob/Gyn has Always told me that they do NOT increase your risk of getting breast Cancer. I tend to believe him instead of a bunch of Drs i've never seen nor heard of.

 

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